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Jitendra Gaikwad questioned
is there any report or scientific article available illustrating data gaps for all indicators?

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Mike Gill responded
Thanks for this Christine and agree with this. In GEO BON interventions to the CBD discussions, our call for investments in national biodiversity observation systems has included some indication with regard to Free Prior Informed Consent.

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Christine von Weizsaecker questioned
The inclusion of traditional knowledge in the Draft Target 19 Text indicates difficulties with “simple” public availability. This should be subject to Free Prior Informded Consent. So answering the last poll is not that easy.

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Mike Gill responded
Hi Raki – thankyou for raising this. I fully agree that Indigenous People’s are core to this given their close relationship to the land over multiple time scales (eons but also year round) allowing for deeper understanding of ecological relationships as well as observing biodiversity change on a daily/yearly basis. I think there has been an unfortunate imbalance on this but there are some great examples that show a way forward – for instance, in the Arctic, where I have worked for many years, we have biodiversity monitoring programs led by Indigenous experts who observe change while on the land (hunting/harvesting) as well as provide deeper/longer interpretations. There’s some good examples that we can and should build on.

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Raki Ap questioend
How Indigenous Peoples can and should play an important role in the ‘Data Gap’.

UN FCCC underlined the importance of Indigenous Peoples whose way of life have preserved more then 80% of worlds biodiversity.
At the same time more then 97% of world deforestation happens on those crucial Indigenous Lands.

I represent the people of West Papua, which is part of world largest tropical island and one of Earth’s best preserved flora and fauna hotspots.
Governments as Indonesia is closing West Papua for NGO’s how can we still get credible data from such a crucial area.

I see the importance of academic and institutional data sharing, at the same Time I miss the most essential stake holders and best Protectors of the earth’s biodiversity.
How can we support Indigenous Peoples in credible data collecting? Because they have the will but have been kept out important meeting such as this one.

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Robert Guralnick responded
Oops I didn’t mean to answer this question live, Yvan! Such a deep question! I think you are right this is very hard, and it relates to how people want to assemble new datasets from published data, and how to get the needed metadata that explains the process that generated those data. We have been working on the Humboldt extension as a way to align with the frameworks we have with Darwin Core, and making sure that every record has its reported inventory process. This requires a longer answer still but I hope we can keep talking

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Alice Hughes responded
I think we actually need both. Clear metadata standards to provide all metadata in a clear and standardised way and data standards for the data itself, especially for data which may be widely used or combined with other-datasets (and where metadata may not be clearly and individually checked). This maximises sensible data-use, and helps ensure data is not used when it is not “fit for purpose”, especially for those who may not take the time to understand all caveats, whilst enabling those who may look more indepth at individual datasets have the information to do so

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Yvan Le Bras questioned
looking at the Alice and Rob points related to “fine” description of “inventory process” and others is something arguing that instead of using a data satandard, it can be more efficient to use a metadata standard (as there is one particularly of interest in our fields, EML once again) as this is de facto more flexible / modular. Moreover, it appears to me the “cost” of using a metadata standard approach instead of a data standard approach is particularly on the reuse, because it oblige reusers to take time understanding the datafile (s) to combine it with another datafile (s). What do you think about this “data standard” vs “metadata standard” positioning ?

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Maria Cecilia Londono Murcia responded
There is an opportunity for doing this, but most important it is a need. Workflows from data to indicators and action are needed National and at subnational sacales, using their own data and adapted to their own contexts.

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Alice Hughes responded
We need scalable designs. Biodiversity is local, policy is national (sometimes subnational), targets are often global. Having cross-referenceable data and scalable approaches is essential to ensure we have data which is comparable and can be used for cross-scale indicators

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Mike Gill responded
Hi Jacqueline – yes, I do think this is possible and in fact we are seeing this happen with work we are conducting in Ghana and Uganda where we are co-developing workflows that connect data to analytics to indicators and other outputs and even sub-national, county level orgs and agencies are applying these workflows and the outputs to make decisions. An example is the Land-Use Spatial Planning Authority in Ghana who is running our Spatial Biodiversity Assessment workflow at their county level to conduct muncipal level planning that protects habitats

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Jacqueline Hamilton questioned
Do you see opportunity (or examples) for workflows or nested designs in decision supoprt tools and/or data collection to “scale down” and add to national data and monitoring at sub-national scales where information gathered can be so far removed (esp in big countries) from these national processes that often different data, language and metrics are being used

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Robert Guralnick responded
We are working on that very activity and once we finish that effort, we expect to bring that forward for a public comment period and then hopefully see this ratified. I am hoping we’ll have that process wrapped up by end of year (if not sooner)

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Jitendra Gaikwad questioned
Would be great to see Biodiversity Data Standards taking up the Humboldt extension to the DarwinCore

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Henrique Pereira responded
No formal assessment yet, but this is our principle. In some aspects of it we go beyond fair as the data is fully open.

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